http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViclKF4hBLs Head to Head, with Oded Ben Ami Ben Ami: Good evening to MK Ahmed Tibi. Tibi: Good evening. B: And good evening to Moshe Feiglin, member of the Likud Central Committee, and perhaps we can say as well, candidate for the head of the Likud. Feiglin: Certainly. B: I want to ask both of you. Who is guilty for this wave -- so dense, so violent, extraordinary, despite the reality that we recognize so well -- this dense wave of disturbances? Feiglin, can you explain to me why this is happening, and why it's happening now? F: I'd like to remind you that when the last mosque was burned it became clear that it was an Arab from the same village, Tuba Zangaria, so we don't need to jump to conclusions too quickly. B: Where did that become clear? Where did that become clear? F: Ask the mayor of Tuba Zangaria, who went on at length with a high level of certainty that this is the story there. B: I know that the police investigation, incidentally, hasn't yet been completed... F: And it also won't be completed, because that's exactly the conclusion. But I'd like to ask, with your permission, to ask Ahmed Tibi, who is sitting with you, and who represents the community from which the majority of the most murderous attacks in the State of Israel came from, what he has to say about this. How can it be that Ahmed Tibi appears here in the role of victim, rather than as a supporter of terror? B: MK Tibi, I'll pass the ball to you. Because Moshe Feiglin wants to ask you, why are you in the role of victim? Do you really feel like a victim today? T: Well, Palestinians, if the meaning is that I'm a Palestinian, and Palestinians are victims of the occupation, and recently... F: And that justifies murder, Mr. Ahmed? T: Are you ready to let me continue? Let me answer. F: That justifies murder? That justifies the attacks in Tel Aviv? The bus that was attacked? B: Mr. Feiglin, just to correct you, his name is MK Ahmed Tibi. F: Right, I forgot for a minute. Tibi Okay, try not to get smart, let me continue. The attempt to divert attention, in this debate as well, from the burning of mosques and the occupation itself, one of the tools of which is the settlers. I refuse to accept the attempt by the government or the media or these settlers, that there are good settlers and bad settlers; there's a good army, and there are settlers against it. There is a structure of occupation, which is the incubator of these settlers, who from the beginning of the year have burned 9 mosques. Yesterday, I visited one of them, Okasha Mosque in Jerusalem, and I'm sure there will be more mosque burnings, because they don't punish settlers. The government is the ideological and logistic incubator. Burning of mosques. If synagogues in Europe were being burned, we'd be reading about the foul wave of antisemitism flooding Europe. So I say, I claim the expression. We're talking about Jewish antisemitism. And this man who is sitting here [pointing at Feiglin] is the symbol of Jewish antisemitism. This is the man. B: Okay, now I come back to you... T: This is a Jewish antisemite. B: Now I come back to you, Moshe Feiglin. F: If you want to come up with something new, then I'd like to come up with something new for the honorable Mr. Tibi... T: You defend it, and you're part of it! B: Wait a minute, let him go on. F: Thank you. It's impossible to come up with something new for MK Tibi that almost every week a synagogue is burned by Israeli Arabs, and that doesn't interest anyone. T: Where did this happen? F: In a second, I'll tell you immediately and exactly where this happens/ T: Where did that happen? F: It happened in Jaffa, it happened in Akko, it happened in Nazareth, it's happened everywhere, and I... T: That's slander! F: ...and I repeat... T: That's just slander and lies! F: Now you'll let me finish, Mr. Tibi. I'm tired of your idiocies... T: Don't lie! Don't lie! F: ...and I'm asking you to let me finish a sentence. T: You are a Jewish antisemite! At this point, you're on the side of the antisemities! You're an antisemite! F: (inaudible, trying to speak as Tibi continues shouting) B: MK Tibi, wait a minute, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, now, excuse me, one moment. One moment, one moment, Mr. Feiglin T: You're a Jewish antisemite! B: MK Tibi, now, I'm going to insist that Mr. Feiglin speak, and we will listen to him. Please. F: Every week, a synagogue is burned and Jewish cemetaries are desecrated by Arabs, by the community that Ahmed Tibi represents, and it doesn't interest anyone. And Ahmed Tibi represents a community that... T: Why don't you challenge that? F: Let me finish. T: Mr. Ben Ami, why don't you challenge this lie? F: Shut up and let me finish. B: We'll give him a moment to finish. F: Ahmed Tibi represents a community from which come the majority of the murderers of the most horrible attacks that have taken place in the State of Israel. How are you... B: But now I want... F: How are you not ashamed to present a man like this as the victim? B: By the way, in the same way that we're not ashamed to present you. But I want anyway to ask you... T: I strongly reject the comparison! This is a Jewish antisemite; I'm humane, I'm liberal... F: Humane? Sure you're humane... Tibi ...I have values. I've never killed anyone, I've never incited against anyone, F: You defend the murder of Jews... T: This man incites! He's an occupier! He's a land thief! To compare Ahmed Tibi to this moral garbage called Feiglin... F: Sure, sure... T: ...that's already the [...] now. B: Now I want anyway to... Tibi I won't let anyone compare the two of us! F: You are the representative of the murderers and the desecrators of cemetaries, that's what you are. T: Moral garbage! You are moral garbage! Human trash! You are an occupier! You are a disturbance! There is... F: I'm not an occupier... T: You were convicted! You were convicted in a court! F: Honorable Mr. Tibi, I am not an occupier... T: You are an occupier! You are moral garbage! You are moral trash! F: ...so I'm informing you that I am not an occupier. This is my land, and you will not remain here. T: I'm proud that I'm Muslim, and you are a shame and embarrassment of a Jewish antisemite! B: Fine, now... T: You're a Jewish antisemite! You won't decide whether Channel 2 invites me or not! B: We... T: I am the owner here! I am the owner! B: We... gentlemen.... F: So I am informing you that... T: You are a temporary resident of the occupied territories! F: ...that you are not the owner here. B: Gentlemen, gentlemen... F: Mr. Ben Ami, Mr. Ben Ami... B: ...gentlemen, I'm forced to stop this discussion... T: And you want to teach me morals! Who are you, anyway? F: Mr. Ben Ami, with your permission... T: You're a criminal. B: I wanted very much to conduct some sort of dialog, but it simply isn't happening. I'd like to thank you very much MK Tibi, and to thank you very much, Mr. Moshe Feiglin. Thank you very much, and we'll continue.